Sedna: A Clue to Nibiru

(Updated Chronologically)

Sedna is the name given by astronomers for the newest planet to be discovered orbiting the Sun. Although the details of the size of the planet are still being sought, it is thought to be about 1300 miles in diameter and could be of a similar size to Pluto.  Given the Pluto is generally accepted to be a planet in its own right, Sedna becomes the tenth planet to be found orbiting the Sun.

NASA put out information about an announcement planned for Monday 15th March, to be given by Dr Michael Brown of Caltech  (1).  His team had recently discovered another large Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt object called 2004 DW, details of which were released in February (2). His team are using the recently launched Spitzer Space Telescope. At that time he made the following comment:

"It's now only a matter of time before something is going to be discovered out there that will change our entire view of the outer solar system".


Barely a month later the latest discovery has been announced, this time of a body that might rival Pluto in size, and can properly be called a planet:

"Brown, along with Drs. Chad Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory, Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz of Yale University, New Haven, Conn., found the planet-like object, or planetoid, on Nov. 14, 2003." (4)

It is currently located in the Edgeworth-Kuiper belt some 13 billion km from the Sun (3), or about 85 Astronomical Units, which is about three times more distant than Pluto. This places it in the Kuiper Gap, or Kuiper Cliff, an area unexpectedly devoid of predicted objects. 

Perhaps it may help to explain the lack of companions out at this distance, although it is probably too small in practice to have swept the Belt clean by itself.

However, although it is located here, it may actually be an object from the distant Oort Cloud of comets.   At the moment it is nearing perihelion, which has brought it into the Kuiper Belt.  It is the most distant object to have been located orbiting the Sun. It appears to be following an elliptical orbit of about 10,500 years duration, taking out to a phenomenal 900 AU when at aphelion (4).  Size-wise,  it is too small to be a 'Nibiru' type-entity, irrespective of whether Nibiru turns out to be a terrestrial planet or a gas giant.   Nor is this rocky, icy world anything approaching a 'Dark Star', even though it is red (presumably die the deposit of organic material on its surface).  But it is a thrilling discovery, even so. 

Dr David Whitehouse, writing for the BBC, states that 'astronomers at the Tenagra Observatory in Arizona were asked to provide positional information so that an orbit could be determined for Sedna'.  It has also been imaged by the Hubble Space Telescope (3).

The new planet has been named  'Sedna', after the Canadian and Greenlandic Inuit Sea Goddess (6):"Sedna, the Sea Spirit, exercises suzerainity over all animals which provide food for humans.  In her residence at the bottom of the sea, from where she sends out the animals for hunting, she takes on the form of a woman. Even shamans fear her." (5)

One can see why the Arctic symbolism has been deployed: a Sea Goddess at the bottom of the cold Abyss who sends forth her hunters in the form of the EKBOs.  Quite poetic, really, for astronomers! (Just kidding, guys). 


More Information Emerges

The discovery of this object is not entirely unexpected, in that new technology is helping astronomers to look deeper into the void beyond Pluto to search out dark objects, some of them clearly sizeable. 

If Sedna turns out to be as large as Pluto, which is still possible, then it would properly be called a planet. However, this is likely to re-ignite debate about what a planet really is, and whether Pluto itself is simply a large, spheroid-shaped asteroid, accompanied by its relatively large 'moon' Charon. 

At the moment, it is thought to be smaller than Pluto, but bigger than Quaoar, so it is by no means certain what will be decided for it in time.

Sedna is currently at its closest approach to the Sun, of 'perihelion'.  Its orbit is elliptical, but falls well within the boundary of the inner Oort Cloud at its most distant point in its long orbit. 

So it behaves somewhat like a planetary comet.  This finding, according to Dr Brown, might also cause astronomers to rethink the position of the comet-cloud:

"The elliptical orbit of Sedna is unlike anything previously seen by astronomers. However, it resembles that of objects predicted to lie in the hypothetical Oort cloud. The cloud is thought to explain the existence of certain comets. It is believed to surround the Sun and extend outward halfway to the star closest to the Sun. But Sedna is 10 times closer than the predicted distance of the Oort cloud. Brown said this "inner Oort cloud" may have been formed by gravity from a rogue star near the Sun in the solar system's early days." (4)

Speculation about the existence of a binary star at the early point in the solar system's history is now bound to grow, as will the possibility that the Sun was subject to a stellar 'fly-by'.  Of this I will have more to say in 'Binary Companion', a book I am in the process of completing.  Suffice it to say that the outer solar system is starting to look like a very interesting place indeed.

So what can we expect next; Planet XI, Planet XII, Planet XIII...?  Is there an Earth-sized planet out there that might have something to do with this gap in the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt? Is there something even larger further out, like a binary 'dark star' that may still be lurking among the comets?  No one knows for sure, but what is likely is that discoveries will continue to be made as the ability of astronomers to discover increasingly dark and distant objects orbiting the Sun improves.  In the meantime, congratulations to the Spitzer team at Caltech!

Anomalies Fuel Scientific Speculation

There are several anomalous aspects to this discovery, not least of which is Sedna's orbit.  It is simply not behaving as it should, at least according to the model of the solar system used by astronomers.  To have such an elliptical orbit it would have to have been pulled out of an ancient circular orbit by some other, massive object.  Yet no such object is known to exist out there, and the potential existence of an undiscovered massive object has long been dismissed by astronomers. 

However, Sedna's discovery has lead to new speculation amongst some of the biggest names in planetary science.  The leader of the team who discovered Sedna, Dr Michael Brown, has questioned whether the previously accepted position of the inner Oort Cloud is correct, and wonders whether the Sun formed in a star cluster whose brethren may have dragged minor planets like Sedna into eccentric orbits (7). 

Other astronomers, each with their own pet theories about the outer solar system, have contributed other ideas, like the effect of a passing star, or interaction with Gigantic Molecular Clouds. 

Perhaps surprisingly, the head of the Minor Planet Centre, Brian Marsden, has gone on record speculating about the existence of a terrestrial-sized planet, or bigger, several hundred AU away:

"Marsden favours an object closer in, a "planetary object," he told , perhaps at between 400 and 1,000 AU.  "Perhaps there's more than one planet out there," Marsden said. "Who knows? But let's suppose it is something of an Earth mass, maybe even a few Earth masses. A close approach could throw this object [Sedna] from something more circular into something more eccentric."

"Marsden says such a scenario leaves open the question of how an Earth-sized planet could have formed so far from the Sun, where raw material should have been sparse, according to current theory.  Brown said an Earth-sized planet is indeed a possibility. But his team's calculations put it at about 70 AU. "We think it's unlikely, because we think we would have found it by now," Brown said in a telephone interview." (7)

The view put forward by Mike Brown here is similar to the problem faced by Brunini and Melita when they argued for an embedded planet in the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt (8).  Although their calculations created a reasonable model for the truncation of the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt, particularly, as it turns out, with a more eccentric orbit for such a planet (9), the question of its lack of discovery is an urgent and difficult one.   

If it lies further out, it must be more substantial in size to create the same effect, which is why Dr Marsden opts for a multiple-Earth-mass planet.  But then how did such a body form in this region of low density of matter? 

 The problem becomes more complex still. 

We also have the question of whether the truncation of the Edgeworth-Kuiper Disc was caused by a very massive object.  Models of stellar fly-bys can produce some, but not all, of the observed effects  (10). I am given to understand that a Jupiter-plus sized object in an eccentric orbit would create the truncated disc, although my source in the astronomical community who carried out these revealing calculations doubts whether one could still be out there.  I am not so sure, particularly given Sedna's orbital properties.

Could a very substantial planet still be out there and have evaded detection?  I have argued that that is the case on several occasions (11), and this view seems to have been backed up by Dr Brown's analysis of previous searches, like IRAS:

"...Brown said there is one unexplored region of space left, amounting to about 20 percent of the sky, that hasn't been searched for an Earth-sized object that would be orbiting at 70 AU and presumably in the main plane of the solar system. It is the region toward the bright galactic centre, which is harder to search.  Brown said his team is considering making that search now." (7)

The densest region of the Milky Way lies in the vicinity of Sagittarius.  This is a prime hunting ground for Nibiru for a number of reasons, not least of which are textual references to it that constellation being the direction the mythical planet departs towards (12,13).  I have argued that Nibiru currently lies north of Sagittarius. There are other, more scientific reasons for considering this region for a candidate object, which I will discuss in 'Binary Companion'

Mean Motion Resonance

As it turns out, Sedna has been found close to where I have argued for the sky location of the perihelion transit of Nibiru (near Sirius and Orion).  This is in the opposing part of the sky from Sagittarius.  Sedna is also near to perihelion, moving from Cetus towards Taurus, which seems to be pro-grade. Is its orbit related to a larger body like Nibiru? 

Such a situation could readily exist because bodies in the outer solar system tend to establish orbital correlations between each other called 'mean motion resonances' (14).  Pluto has a commensurate orbit with Neptune, for instance, in this case a 2:3 mean motion resonance.  Many of the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt Objects have similar resonance ratios with Neptune.

So if Nibiru is orbiting the Sun in the outer solar system, and if it is a substantial planet (and I advocate a sub-brown dwarf, a spectral class that has yet to be observed but has been modelled (15)), then it will interact with the other celestial bodies within the considerable sweep of its eccentric orbit. 

Over time, Nibiru would have ejected many so-called scattered disc objects (and the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt is known to be massively depleted), causing the truncation of the Edgeworth-Kuiper belt, and those objects that remain in its sphere of influence will have taken on resonant orbits with it.  So it is certainly not beyond reason that Sedna is in a resonant orbit with the much larger Nibiru.  If so, its orbital period would take on a single figure ratio in relation to that of Nibiru's. 

When discussing the orbit of Nibiru Zecharia Sitchin proposed that it was about 3600 years, synchronous with the fundamental number in the Sumerian sexagessimal numbering system of 3600, or 1 'Sar' (12).  Sedna's orbital period is about 3 times this number.  So Sedna may have a 3:1 mean motion resonance with Nibiru.  If more bodies are found in similar orbits, which now seems likely, then they too may be found to have a fundamental mean motion resonance with the proposed massive body Nibiru.  As Spitzer and other surveys carry on their work over  next year or two, a pattern of newly discovered bodies may emerge, which will only increase speculation about the existence of a massive undiscovered body.

LaGrangian Points

Another possibility is that Nibiru has an attendant set of clusters of comets, asteroids and minor planets.  There are mathematical locations in a three body system that are stable regions, and these are called LaGrangian points, after the 18th Century mathematician Joseph Louis LaGrange. So, if we took the example of Nibiru and the Sun as the two main bodies, and thought about minor objects that could be located at these stable points with respect to Nibiru's orbit:

"Three of the LaGrangian points lie on a line connecting the two bodies. The others fall 60 degrees ahead of and behind the smaller of the two masses...Since the real solar system contains more than two planets and one asteroid, the LaGrangian points are not points at all, but regions." (14)

An example of this are the Trojans, two clusters of asteroids within Jupiter's orbit that have a mean motion resonance with the gas giant of 1:1. 

"Lagrange showed that three bodies can lie at the apexes of an equilateral triangle which rotates in its plane. If one of the bodies is sufficiently massive compared with the other two, then the triangular configuration is apparently stable. Bodies at such points are sometimes referred to as Trojans.

"The leading apex of the triangle is known as the leading Lagrange point or L4; the trailing apex is the trailing Lagrange point or L5. Collinear with the two large bodies are the L1, L2 and L3 unstable equilibrium points which can sometimes be useful places for spacecraft." (16)

John Bagby, a researcher who, several decades ago, considered the possibility that the Sun might have up to 20 undiscovered companions,  offered the thought that immense clusters of bodies at the LaGrangian points might help distribute mass around the orbital path of the candidate objects he proposed, creating a complex outer system (17). (He remains convinced to this day that a number of these bodies, perhaps all (!), await discovery). 

One could also imagine cometary showers occurring when these LaGrangian points are at perihelion. So perhaps Sedna is part of a cluster of minor planetary bodies passing through the Edgeworth-Kuiper belt that is in a 1:1 mean motion resonance with Nibiru.  Again, if that is so then many other bodies contained within that cluster are about to come to light: Sedna is only 72 years away from perihelion.  This might be interesting news to those who believe that comet activity in the solar system is on the rise.

The implication of this speculation is that Nibiru may have a much larger orbit than previously thought; possibly three Sars , or about 10,800 years.  The Dark Star Nibiru would then currently lie about 1000 AU away.  In that case, its last perihelion transit would have been about 5770 years ago.  And this would explain why it has not been seen since, even though it is the source of mythology and a staggering amount of ancient, and modern, symbolism.  However, Sedna appears to be moving along a pro-grade orbit, whereas Nibiru's is said to be retrograde.  This complicates the matter somewhat.

I suggest that Sedna's discovery draws us ever closer to Nibiru's, and that it will be found somewhere in the sky North of Sagittarius, probably within some of the dense star fields ignored by IRAS.  It is quite possible that it has already been catalogued, but incorrectly defined as a more distant stellar object (a red dwarf was similarly recently re-identified as a much closer object).   It is heartening that Dr Brown is now going to turn his attention, and that of the Spitzer Telescope, towards such unexplored regions.  He may be truly amazed at what he finds there.

That Red Colour

The red colour of Sedna is also a puzzle.  Organic, volatile, icy deposits on the surface of a outer solar system body tend to make these objects reddish, but none of the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt objects have the same degree of reddening as Sedna.  It has been suggested to me by a research colleague that high speed, collisional interactions could create this kind of colouring effect on the body's surface (18). 

EKBOs are thought to collide on occasion, and Sedna is a substantial minor planetary body. But its properties, both orbital and physical, tend to suggest it falls into a new class of scattered disk objects.  I have proposed here that that class is related to a massive object in a similar orbital pattern that currently lies at aphelion.  That object is believed to have interacted with the other bodies of the primordial solar system in a catastrophic manner.  One can readily see how the red colour could tie in with this scenario.

That Lack of Spin

When Sedna was originally discovered it was thought that it had a moon in tow, rather like Pluto's moon Charon.  The reason for that prediction had to do with Sedna's axial spin which gives it a rather long 'day', between 20 and 40 Earth days (19).  For such a solar system body to have such a slow spin it must have interacted with a moon of about 400 miles diameter, which would have acted as a brake to Sedna's spin over time. 

However, Sedna appears to have no such moon.  Observations by the Hubble Space telescope have effectively ruled out a moon down to less than ten times smaller than Sedna, and any orbiting moon as small as this could not have slowed Sedna's spin down.  The implication of this is that there must have once been a moon, but it is now missing.  Yet Sedna orbits along a trajectory that is relatively empty of other solar system least that's the impression astronomers have so far. 

How could it have lost a moon?  Only through some kind of catastrophic collision, an event which lends itself to the reddening of Sedna itself.   This fits with the idea of an extended Nibiruan system along Sedna's orbital trajectory, of which Sedna is the first body to actually be discovered.

Some correspondents have wondered whether Sedna may have been, or still is, a moon of Nibiru, perhaps dislocated soon after Nibiru's migration into the outer solar system after the collision with Tiamat.  This seems an interesting possibility, and makes one wonder whether Sedna's lack of spin, that should indicate the presence of an absent moon, might actually indicate the loss of contact with Sedna's original parent planet; Nibiru.  In which case Sedna has a lot to tell us about its prior host... if only Hubble wasn't about to be de-commissioned early.

Astronomers consider Dark Star Solution to Sedna

I'm finding it strange how astronomers are becoming more and more interested in the potential for the involvement of a Brown Dwarf in the early solar system. It is in marked contrast to the population at large whose interest in the Planet X phenomenon has waned with the timely arrival of 2004.  Perhaps that is exactly why astronomers feel at ease with speculating about the outer solar system's origins now; the feeding frenzy of fringe Planet X conjecture has dissipated.  In its wake is the possibility of a real scientific debate about whether our Sun became entangled with sizeable objects in the dim and distant past; interstellar passers-by, brown dwarfs and birth cluster companions.

You see, the birth of our Sun is no longer being discussed in terms of it lonely entry into a quiet, unremarkable backwater of the galaxy. It may have had siblings; a veritable litter of starlets of all shapes and sizes whose early presence may not have adversely affected the inner planets per se, but sure as hell may have knocked around the outer bodies orbiting the Sun. 

Until recently, not enough was known about these bodies, and the assumption was that they would be found to meander around our Sun in a more or less orderly fashion.

But, true to form in Science, the unexpected rears its ugly head and upsets the proverbial apple cart.  In this case, the origin of the planetary system around the Sun. SOMETHING has been creating patterns of change out there, creating bizarre orbits, creating headaches for the boffins.  To solve the riddle of objects like Sedna the astronomers are having to fall back upon an old mainstay beloved of previous generations of scientists: creative thought.  they are speculating, and the subject of that speculation is eerily reminiscent of the kind of ideas knocked about on this website.

New Scientist has published a feature outlining the new thinking.  An 'implausible' but nevertheless 'cool' suggestion is that Sedna's controversial orbit could be the result of the early presence of a Brown Dwarf interacting with the Sun.  Yes, yes, YES!  First of all we have had a similar possibility raised by the peculiar Gap in the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt; now we have this same solution described to potentially explain Sedna's orbit.  Can one detect a pattern emerging?  Here's an extract from the New Scientist article, details and link in the references:

"Sedna's orbit is so extreme researchers say it could not have formed simply from the gravitational kicks of the giant planets, which are responsible for the eccentric orbits of the comets and Pluto. "If this thing was scattered out by a planet, something else had to change the orbit, something we don't see," says study co-author Hal Levison, an astronomer at the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado. "That's why Sedna and 2000 CR 105 [the next most-distant object] are so cool. They tell us something was different back when they formed." (20)

A number of solutions are put forward, including a stellar fly-by and an embedded planet in the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt at about 75AU.  Both of these solutions have problems, the former as described by Quillen (10), the latter by the evident lack of a candidate object.  To paraphrase Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, when all other solutions fail one must start to seriously consider the remaining possibilities, no matter how 'impossible' they may have first appeared. 

"But the researchers thought up another improbable scenario that managed to explain Sedna's orbit remarkably well. Sedna could have been born around a brown dwarf about 20 times less massive than the Sun and captured by our Solar System when the brown dwarf approached. "What's striking about this idea is how efficient it is," says Levison, whose calculations suggest about half of the material orbiting the dwarf would have gone into orbit around the Sun. "Even if it's wrong it's a cool idea."

""It just seems implausible, but that doesn't mean it's not true," agrees Brown.

"The study is scheduled for publication in November 2004 in the Astronomical Journal." (20)

Sherlock Holmes would be proud, fellas!  To inject just a little further controversy, maybe the 'brown dwarf' was a fraction of the size and ALL of the material went into orbit around the Sun, including the tiniest wee brown dwarf itself?  Then you might as well call this idea the Dark Star Theory!  So I'm looking forward to November, I don't mind admitting.  Expect a further update to this page then, if not before...


© Andy Lloyd 15th March-30th July 2004


1)  NASA Schedules News Briefing about Unusual Solar Object


3)  D. Whitehouse   "Astronomers Discover new planet" 15th March 2004

4)  Spitzer Press release, 15th March 2004

      Image Credits: NASA/JPL-Caltech/R. Hurt (SSC-Caltech)

5)  R. Willis (Ed) "World Mythology" p216-7 Simon & Schuster 1993

6)  'Sedna'

7)   R. R. Britt " Distant Sedna Raises Possibility of Another Earth-Sized Planet in Our Solar System" 16th March 2004  With thanks to David Pearson

8)  A. Brunini & M. Melita “The Existence of a Planet beyond 50AU and the Orbital Distribution of the Classical Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt Objects” Icarus, 160, pp32-43 (2002)

9)   Correspondence from Dr Mario Melita, 15th January 2003

10)  A. Quillen, D. Trilling & E. Blackman “The Impact of a Close Stellar Encounter on the Edgeworth-Kuiper Belt” arXiv:astro-ph/0401372vl, 2004

11)  A. Lloyd "Planet X: Past and Present" UFO Magazine, pp32-7, January 2004

12)  Z. Sitchin "The Twelfth Planet" Avon 1976

13)  A. Lloyd "Winged Disc: The Dark Star Theory" Available from the author, 2001

14) J. Davies "Beyond Pluto" pp94-6 Cambridge University Press 2001

15)  A. Burrows, D. Sudarsky & J. Lunine "Beyond the T Dwarfs: Theoretical Spectra, Colours, and Detectability of the Coolest Brown Dwarfs" Jun 2003 arXiv:astro-ph/0304226v2

16) Bill Arnett

17)  J. Bagby “Evidence for a Tenth Planet or Massive Solar Companion beyond Uranus” 1982.   Many position papers by John P. Bagby were published in several lesser-known journals, nevertheless standing as a substantive public record of his cutting-edge work, including Kronos 1984; Cornell Engineer 1980, v 45, #4, pp32-4; Cycles Journal 1996, and others published as early as 1972!  Thanks to John P. Bagby for the continued updates since Sedna's discovery.

18)  Correspondence from Rajasun, 18th March 2004

19)  R. Britt "Weird Object Beyond Pluto Gets Stranger" 14th April 2004 With thanks to David Pearson

20)  Maggie McKee "Stray Star may have jolted Sedna" 27th July 2004 With thanks to Lee Covino and Brant McLaughlin for their speedy forwarding of this important article!


For a fascinating and potentially explosive interview with Brian Marsden about Sedna and its implications, check out Linda Moulton Howe's Earthfiles website:


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